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| + | VW: #startmeeting Large Deployments Team June 2016 Meeting | ||
| + | VW: roll call, I suppose | ||
| + | VW: who all do we have today | ||
| + | klindgren: o/ | ||
| + | mriedem1 is now known as mriedem | ||
| + | VW: o/ | ||
| + | belmoreira: hi | ||
| + | VW: hello, sir! Things good in GVA? | ||
| + | belmoreira: still working :) | ||
| + | VW: excellent! | ||
| + | klindgren: pinging mdorman | ||
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| + | VW: #topic Meeting with Glance Team | ||
| + | VW: so, how did the rest of the chat with the Glance devs go? | ||
| + | VW: for those here from LDT that weren't aware, some of this group had a video call with Glance developers last week to discuss a few items | ||
| + | VW: belmoreira, klindgren if either of you want to give a good rundown for logging/posterity, it might be good ;) | ||
| + | klindgren: Sure | ||
| + | klindgren: Basically nikhil reached out from the Austin summit wanting to look at operators painpoints re: glance | ||
| + | klindgren: This was from the informal ops feedback section. We during previous LDT meetings had also talked about looking to glance as the next thing to try to get some improvements/features added to that we all need | ||
| + | klindgren: So I added a bunch of those to the etherpad and I thought we had a fairly good discussion about them. | ||
| + | klindgren: Things like improved quota, improved image lifecycle support, hiercical(sp) project support | ||
| + | belmoreira: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-glance-and-ops-midcycle-sync | ||
| + | klindgren: better image sharing support | ||
| + | klindgren: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-glance-and-ops-midcycle-sync | ||
| + | klindgren: We also talked about the fact that some of us have multiple backends and we would like to have a way to move to a single backend. | ||
| + | klindgren: Also after the meeting it came to light that the S3 driver is being dropped from the glance_store | ||
| + | klindgren: Which we currently use the S3 driver driver due to an issue in radosgw on our version of ceph, with the swift endpoint | ||
| + | klindgren: (deleting large snapshots will eventually timeout) | ||
| + | mdorman: o/ | ||
| + | VW: we also discussed the direct upload stuff, but it sounded like that was a lot trickier than we would like | ||
| + | mdorman: sorry for late | ||
| + | klindgren: I believe their should be a mailing list post coming out from that and I think some specs got filed | ||
| + | VW: awesome! | ||
| + | klindgren: I think some other specs were already in progress as well | ||
| + | VW: we should gather those and update the "Current Work Items" section of https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/LDT | ||
| + | VW: which is very out of date :\ | ||
| + | klindgren: They were very upfront about the fact that unless something was already in progress this would be after the newton release for any new features | ||
| + | VW: That's Ok - we can at least make sure the right conversations go on realtive to them in Barcelona | ||
| + | VW: maybe drag more LDT and other operators in | ||
| + | belmoreira: but I think it was a good initiative from nikhil and glance team | ||
| + | VW: +1 | ||
| + | klindgren: So thats my summary - belmoreira can add more as well | ||
| + | belmoreira: I was particularly interested in quotas for glance | ||
| + | mrhillsman: i'm here as well btw | ||
| + | VW: hey mrhillsman | ||
| + | belmoreira: seems a consensus topic. However the question is more about what kind of quotas glance should support | ||
| + | belmoreira: considering the new library that is being build or a simple quota support | ||
| + | belmoreira: the new library should support hierarchical projects | ||
| + | belmoreira: this definitely will not be in newton | ||
| + | VW: right | ||
| + | mdorman: cool | ||
| + | VW: but since the new design summit format is supposed to be much more dev/ops interaction, we should work with the Glance folks to have a follow up session or two in Barcelona to help shape how things work in O | ||
| + | VW: but I agree - glad to see us engaging with another dev team | ||
| + | klindgren: so - next topic? | ||
| − | VW | + | VW: #Topic Follow up to Town Hall on Design Summit changes |
| − | + | VW: was anyone here able to make ^ | |
| − | + | klindgren: Not I | |
| − | + | VW: nor I | |
| − | + | mdorman: nope | |
| − | + | belmoreira: no | |
| − | + | VW: well then :/ Looks like there is some follow up to do there | |
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| − | VW was anyone here able to make ^ | ||
| − | klindgren Not I | ||
| − | VW nor I | ||
| − | mdorman nope | ||
| − | belmoreira no | ||
| − | VW well then :/ Looks like there is some follow up to do there | ||
mdorman i have not been following it too closely, but other than the fact of having to travel to more events each year (which seems to be the main sticking point for people), it seems like a good plan. | mdorman i have not been following it too closely, but other than the fact of having to travel to more events each year (which seems to be the main sticking point for people), it seems like a good plan. | ||
| − | VW yeah - I agree | + | VW: yeah - I agree |
| − | VW fifieldt was saying we should starting thinking now about how we'ed like to craft the sessions in the new style format | + | VW: fifieldt was saying we should starting thinking now about how we'ed like to craft the sessions in the new style format |
| − | VW especially for Boston and beyond | + | VW: especially for Boston and beyond |
| − | VW so we'll probably visit that a few times in future meetings, etc | + | VW: so we'll probably visit that a few times in future meetings, etc |
| − | mdorman sounds good. | + | mdorman: sounds good. |
| − | klindgren One thing I wish for the Ops meetup - a lot of the same thigns get discussed over and over again | + | klindgren: One thing I wish for the Ops meetup - a lot of the same thigns get discussed over and over again |
| − | klindgren I wish their was a better way to get the old info to the new people | + | klindgren: I wish their was a better way to get the old info to the new people |
| − | VW indeed | + | VW: indeed |
| − | belmoreira +1 | + | belmoreira: +1 |
| − | VW even the first LDT session was a lot of rehash | + | VW: even the first LDT session was a lot of rehash |
| − | + | belmoreira: maybe a solution is to have more targeted meetings | |
| − | + | VW: I think so | |
| − | VW I think so | + | klindgren: I think the workinggroups also need to produce some form of documentation? |
| − | klindgren I think the workinggroups also need to produce some form of documentation? | + | mdorman: yeah or even just a session for on boarding/new people interested, etc. |
| − | mdorman yeah or even just a session for on boarding/new people interested, etc. | + | klindgren: like packaging always comes up. I think a page that lists all the packaging projects |
| − | klindgren like packaging always comes up. I think a page that lists all the packaging projects | + | klindgren: and what they support |
| − | klindgren and what they support | + | klindgren: would help people not ask - what do you guys do for packaging? or how do you build your own packages |
| − | klindgren would help people not ask - what do you guys do for packaging? or how do you build your own packages | + | VW: maybe a panel session with a contact from each working group/team |
| − | VW maybe a panel session with a contact from each working group/team | + | VW: on the first day? |
| − | VW on the first day? | + | VW: kind of like the Q/A session with the TC that we had in our first Ops stuff in ATL |
| − | VW kind of like the Q/A session with the TC that we had in our first Ops stuff in ATL | + | VW: Each person could describe their team |
| − | VW Each person could describe their team | + | VW: make etherpad references to docs |
| − | VW make etherpad references to docs | + | VW: and explain their goals for the team sessions at the summit |
| − | VW and explain their goals for the team sessions at the summit | + | klindgren: Yea - or atleast help people get their questions targeted towards the right group of people |
| − | klindgren Yea - or atleast help people get their questions targeted towards the right group of people | + | mriedem: sorrison: let me know if my reply to your policy question in the ops list doesn't make sense |
| − | mriedem sorrison: let me know if my reply to your policy question in the ops list doesn't make sense | + | mdorman: +1 to that idea, get people targeted toward the right group earlier than later |
| − | mdorman +1 to that idea, get people targeted toward the right group earlier than later | + | VW: ok - I'll start chatting with Tom about it |
| − | VW ok - I'll start chatting with Tom about it | + | VW: closer in to Barcelona we'll discuss how we wan the LDT sessions structured |
| − | VW closer in to Barcelona we'll discuss how we wan the LDT sessions structured | + | VW: too |
| − | VW too | + | VW: anything else summit related? (since that is what this topic kind of became? |
| − | VW anything else summit related? (since that is what this topic kind of became? | + | VW: guess not :) |
| − | VW guess not :) | + | |
| − | VW #Topic August Mid-cycle | + | VW: #Topic August Mid-cycle |
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VW did you all see that a poll is out for the next Ops Mid-cycle location - http://doodle.com/poll/e4heruzps4g94syf | VW did you all see that a poll is out for the next Ops Mid-cycle location - http://doodle.com/poll/e4heruzps4g94syf | ||
| − | klindgren not from me | + | klindgren: not from me |
| − | klindgren Either worked for me | + | klindgren: Either worked for me |
| − | VW Yeah - just wanted to make sure LDT folks were aware. | + | VW: Yeah - just wanted to make sure LDT folks were aware. |
| − | VW mrhillsman and I are in the group trying to plan these going forward. We are meeting next week again to go over the results of the poll, etc | + | VW: mrhillsman and I are in the group trying to plan these going forward. We are meeting next week again to go over the results of the poll, etc |
| − | VW so if anyone here has a preference, please update the poll ;) | + | VW: so if anyone here has a preference, please update the poll ;) |
| − | mrhillsman pretty please | + | mrhillsman: pretty please |
| − | klindgren my wife would love to go to new york... because new york | + | klindgren: my wife would love to go to new york... because new york |
| − | mdorman fyi i will not be at the mid cycle. :) | + | mdorman: fyi i will not be at the mid cycle. :) |
| − | VW you will be missed | + | VW: you will be missed |
| − | belmoreira I don't know yet if I will be able to go | + | belmoreira: I don't know yet if I will be able to go |
| − | VW yeah, for you belmoreira - it probably depends on which coast it ends up on | + | VW: yeah, for you belmoreira - it probably depends on which coast it ends up on |
| − | VW cool - next quick topic | + | VW: cool - next quick topic |
| − | VW #topic Fault Genes Project | + | |
| − | VW Any of you pick up on this? | + | VW: #topic Fault Genes Project |
| − | VW mrhillsman did you attend the first meeting? | + | VW: Any of you pick up on this? |
| − | mdorman i havne’t heard of it | + | VW: mrhillsman did you attend the first meeting? |
| − | mrhillsman unfortunately i did not since i was not on the list at the time | + | mdorman: i havne’t heard of it |
| − | VW it's new mdorman | + | mrhillsman: unfortunately i did not since i was not on the list at the time |
| − | VW seems like it could be useful, but I worry about overlap with other things | + | VW: it's new mdorman |
| − | VW there's a wiki - let me find it | + | VW: seems like it could be useful, but I worry about overlap with other things |
| − | VW #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Fault_Genes_Working_Group | + | VW: there's a wiki - let me find it |
| − | VW anyway, it was something I thought LDT members should be aware of | + | VW: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Fault_Genes_Working_Group |
| − | VW so I'm sharing :D | + | VW: anyway, it was something I thought LDT members should be aware of |
| − | belmoreira thanks. I wasn't aware of it | + | VW: so I'm sharing :D |
| − | mdorman interesting, thanks. | + | belmoreira: thanks. I wasn't aware of it |
| − | VW my pleasure | + | mdorman: interesting, thanks. |
| − | VW #topic Other Business | + | VW: my pleasure |
| − | + | ||
| − | mdorman just want to note that i’ll kind of be out of pocket for the next few months for some family stuff. so i’m not disappearing, just taking a bit of a break. | + | VW: #topic Other Business |
| − | VW no worries, mdorman | + | VW: anything else anyone wants to discuss? |
| − | VW take care of family | + | mdorman: just want to note that i’ll kind of be out of pocket for the next few months for some family stuff. so i’m not disappearing, just taking a bit of a break. |
| − | VW it's most important | + | VW: no worries, mdorman |
| − | VW alright then, we are about at time | + | VW: take care of family |
| − | VW guess I should let you all get back to running clouds | + | VW: it's most important |
| − | + | VW: alright then, we are about at time | |
| − | VW thank you all for joining | + | VW: guess I should let you all get back to running clouds |
| − | mdorman thanks as always VW | + | |
| − | VW next meeting will be 7/22 at 03:00 UTC | + | VW: thank you all for joining |
| − | belmoreira thanks everyone | + | mdorman: thanks as always VW |
| − | + | VW: next meeting will be 7/22 at 03:00 UTC | |
| − | + | belmoreira: thanks everyone | |
| − | VW #endmeeting | + | VW: alright "see" you all around |
| − | mdorman | + | VW: #endmeeting |
| − | + | mdorman: later | |
| + | </pre> | ||
Latest revision as of 17:46, 16 June 2016
VW: #startmeeting Large Deployments Team June 2016 Meeting VW: roll call, I suppose VW: who all do we have today klindgren: o/ mriedem1 is now known as mriedem VW: o/ belmoreira: hi VW: hello, sir! Things good in GVA? belmoreira: still working :) VW: excellent! klindgren: pinging mdorman VW: #topic Meeting with Glance Team VW: so, how did the rest of the chat with the Glance devs go? VW: for those here from LDT that weren't aware, some of this group had a video call with Glance developers last week to discuss a few items VW: belmoreira, klindgren if either of you want to give a good rundown for logging/posterity, it might be good ;) klindgren: Sure klindgren: Basically nikhil reached out from the Austin summit wanting to look at operators painpoints re: glance klindgren: This was from the informal ops feedback section. We during previous LDT meetings had also talked about looking to glance as the next thing to try to get some improvements/features added to that we all need klindgren: So I added a bunch of those to the etherpad and I thought we had a fairly good discussion about them. klindgren: Things like improved quota, improved image lifecycle support, hiercical(sp) project support belmoreira: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-glance-and-ops-midcycle-sync klindgren: better image sharing support klindgren: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-glance-and-ops-midcycle-sync klindgren: We also talked about the fact that some of us have multiple backends and we would like to have a way to move to a single backend. klindgren: Also after the meeting it came to light that the S3 driver is being dropped from the glance_store klindgren: Which we currently use the S3 driver driver due to an issue in radosgw on our version of ceph, with the swift endpoint klindgren: (deleting large snapshots will eventually timeout) mdorman: o/ VW: we also discussed the direct upload stuff, but it sounded like that was a lot trickier than we would like mdorman: sorry for late klindgren: I believe their should be a mailing list post coming out from that and I think some specs got filed VW: awesome! klindgren: I think some other specs were already in progress as well VW: we should gather those and update the "Current Work Items" section of https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/LDT VW: which is very out of date :\ klindgren: They were very upfront about the fact that unless something was already in progress this would be after the newton release for any new features VW: That's Ok - we can at least make sure the right conversations go on realtive to them in Barcelona VW: maybe drag more LDT and other operators in belmoreira: but I think it was a good initiative from nikhil and glance team VW: +1 klindgren: So thats my summary - belmoreira can add more as well belmoreira: I was particularly interested in quotas for glance mrhillsman: i'm here as well btw VW: hey mrhillsman belmoreira: seems a consensus topic. However the question is more about what kind of quotas glance should support belmoreira: considering the new library that is being build or a simple quota support belmoreira: the new library should support hierarchical projects belmoreira: this definitely will not be in newton VW: right mdorman: cool VW: but since the new design summit format is supposed to be much more dev/ops interaction, we should work with the Glance folks to have a follow up session or two in Barcelona to help shape how things work in O VW: but I agree - glad to see us engaging with another dev team klindgren: so - next topic? VW: #Topic Follow up to Town Hall on Design Summit changes VW: was anyone here able to make ^ klindgren: Not I VW: nor I mdorman: nope belmoreira: no VW: well then :/ Looks like there is some follow up to do there mdorman i have not been following it too closely, but other than the fact of having to travel to more events each year (which seems to be the main sticking point for people), it seems like a good plan. VW: yeah - I agree VW: fifieldt was saying we should starting thinking now about how we'ed like to craft the sessions in the new style format VW: especially for Boston and beyond VW: so we'll probably visit that a few times in future meetings, etc mdorman: sounds good. klindgren: One thing I wish for the Ops meetup - a lot of the same thigns get discussed over and over again klindgren: I wish their was a better way to get the old info to the new people VW: indeed belmoreira: +1 VW: even the first LDT session was a lot of rehash belmoreira: maybe a solution is to have more targeted meetings VW: I think so klindgren: I think the workinggroups also need to produce some form of documentation? mdorman: yeah or even just a session for on boarding/new people interested, etc. klindgren: like packaging always comes up. I think a page that lists all the packaging projects klindgren: and what they support klindgren: would help people not ask - what do you guys do for packaging? or how do you build your own packages VW: maybe a panel session with a contact from each working group/team VW: on the first day? VW: kind of like the Q/A session with the TC that we had in our first Ops stuff in ATL VW: Each person could describe their team VW: make etherpad references to docs VW: and explain their goals for the team sessions at the summit klindgren: Yea - or atleast help people get their questions targeted towards the right group of people mriedem: sorrison: let me know if my reply to your policy question in the ops list doesn't make sense mdorman: +1 to that idea, get people targeted toward the right group earlier than later VW: ok - I'll start chatting with Tom about it VW: closer in to Barcelona we'll discuss how we wan the LDT sessions structured VW: too VW: anything else summit related? (since that is what this topic kind of became? VW: guess not :) VW: #Topic August Mid-cycle VW did you all see that a poll is out for the next Ops Mid-cycle location - http://doodle.com/poll/e4heruzps4g94syf klindgren: not from me klindgren: Either worked for me VW: Yeah - just wanted to make sure LDT folks were aware. VW: mrhillsman and I are in the group trying to plan these going forward. We are meeting next week again to go over the results of the poll, etc VW: so if anyone here has a preference, please update the poll ;) mrhillsman: pretty please klindgren: my wife would love to go to new york... because new york mdorman: fyi i will not be at the mid cycle. :) VW: you will be missed belmoreira: I don't know yet if I will be able to go VW: yeah, for you belmoreira - it probably depends on which coast it ends up on VW: cool - next quick topic VW: #topic Fault Genes Project VW: Any of you pick up on this? VW: mrhillsman did you attend the first meeting? mdorman: i havne’t heard of it mrhillsman: unfortunately i did not since i was not on the list at the time VW: it's new mdorman VW: seems like it could be useful, but I worry about overlap with other things VW: there's a wiki - let me find it VW: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Fault_Genes_Working_Group VW: anyway, it was something I thought LDT members should be aware of VW: so I'm sharing :D belmoreira: thanks. I wasn't aware of it mdorman: interesting, thanks. VW: my pleasure VW: #topic Other Business VW: anything else anyone wants to discuss? mdorman: just want to note that i’ll kind of be out of pocket for the next few months for some family stuff. so i’m not disappearing, just taking a bit of a break. VW: no worries, mdorman VW: take care of family VW: it's most important VW: alright then, we are about at time VW: guess I should let you all get back to running clouds VW: thank you all for joining mdorman: thanks as always VW VW: next meeting will be 7/22 at 03:00 UTC belmoreira: thanks everyone VW: alright "see" you all around VW: #endmeeting mdorman: later
