15:46 < Zara> so priority number 1 has to be email notifications
15:47 < Zara> we've got as far as patches to say '$subscribedresource was updated'
15:47 < Zara> so once those are merged
15:47 < betherly> can we narrow that even further. ie subpoinnts
15:47 < betherly> ie what does that involve work wise and what will we include feature wise
15:48 < Zara> yeah, was about to say, we can stop at that point if something else seems like a better priority, or we can continue to refine them-- where those questions come in
15:48 < betherly> :)
15:49 < Zara> this is the patch where the discussion heads toward that: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240346/
15:54 < Zara> So, re: refining or moving on-- I'm not sure there's anything that's ready to move on to. My gut feeling is that this affects people more than any bugs in search.
15:55 < persia> Lack of subscription makes it not worthwhile to put anything in storyboard: you can't have a conversation, and your stories get lost.
15:55 < Zara> or at least it will, once it's merged and people start getting lots of emails-- and for as long as it isn't merged, nobody can use storyboard to track tasks without putting in a *lot* of effort.
15:56 < persia> With subscription, search isn't important for any story you are already following (because you have notifications), and it encourages folk to share story URLs to others so they can subscribe.
15:56 < Zara> we should distinguish between subscriptions themselves and notifications when things happen to subscribed resources
15:56 < Zara> subscriptions are up.
15:57 < Zara> notifications do come up in recent events
15:57 < Zara> email notifications aren't up yet.
15:59 < Zara> and I think the notifications that come up in 'recent events' don't apply to every change one can make to the subscribed resource
15:59 < Zara> I'm wondering if we should say that 'notification' is the main thing to focus on, or if we're best just looking at emails specifically
16:00 < Zara> I think the goal matters more and we'd be better off looking at notification in general.
16:02 < Zara> (I think this is currently recent events on the dashboard and email notifications)
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16:12 < Zara> so my vague map for notifications would be: 1) email notifications when subscribed resources update-- these should be configurable to avoid spam (configuration options need to be decided). 2) recent events should update in a useful way when subscribed
resources update (this needs fleshing out-- what time period is 'recent'? (ie: how long should an event display for? presumably we want multiple events to display... under what conditions should they update?))
16:12 < Zara> I suspect the code for these is quite entwined atm.
16:13 < Zara> lots of brackets because I am a terrible person
16:14 < Zara> I don't know where to start with configuration options for emails, but it seems like the sensible place to start.
16:15 < Zara> I suppose we would need to decide what got configured, make the filters functional, and have a way for a user to choose them.
16:16 < betherly> sorry for disappearing for a while there
16:16 < Zara> as far as the last point goes, there's already a 'preferences' area in the UX for timeline events, so that seems like the place to put the options.
16:16 < Zara> no worries
16:16 < Zara> I just rambled
16:16 < betherly> that all seems good to me tbh
16:17 < betherly> do you want to write that up in an etherpad or something?
16:17 < persia> Let's use the StoryBoard wiki.
16:17 < betherly> ah yes sorry persia you mentioned that earlier my bad
16:18 < betherly> #memoryissues #oldbeforemytime
16:18 < persia> betherly: No worries: I just find the proliferation of etherpads increasingly hard to follow :)
16:18 < persia> They are great for live sessions because it supports multiple simultaneous edits better, but less ideal for longer-lived things.
16:18 < Zara> heh, I was just working things out on paper (well, irc) but recording it will stop things from getting lost in the meantime
16:19 < betherly> yep :)
16:19 < Zara> I work things out by discussing them with myself at length on irc and distracting everyone, it's great
16:20 < betherly> haha :D
16:21 < Zara> is this enough to be getting on with, or is it worth rambling some more before we put it up?
16:23 < persia> I think that's enough for notifications.
16:24 < persia> I also want tags to work: the mess a few days ago when a tag was added making the story unreadable was very unfortunate. Even if tags don't work right, making them not dangerous would be good.
16:24 < Zara> okay, I think we'll find the first step to getting there (re: notifications) is to work out how timeline events currently work, where they intersect with email notifications atm.
