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The following page summarizes the meeting minutes from the weekly Octavia meetings.
 
The following page summarizes the meeting minutes from the weekly Octavia meetings.
  
== 2015-04-22 Weekly meeting: ==
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''' Previous meeting logs '''
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* Previous meetings, with their notes and logs, can be found [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/ here].
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** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/?C=M;O=D octavia-2020]
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** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2019/?C=M;O=D octavia-2019]
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** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2018/?C=M;O=D octavia-2018]
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** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/?C=M;O=D octavia-2017]
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** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/?C=M;O=D octavia-2016]
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** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/?C=M;O=D octavia-2015]
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** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/?C=M;O=D octavia-2014]
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== 2020-09-23 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-04-22-20.00.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-09-23-16.00.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here:   http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-04-22-20.00.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-09-23-16.00.log.html
  
== 2015-04-15 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-09-16 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-04-15-20.00.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-09-16-16.01.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here:   http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-04-15-20.00.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-09-16-16.01.log.html
  
== 2015-04-08 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-09-09 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-04-08-20.00.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-09-09-16.00.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here:   http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-04-08-20.00.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-09-09-16.00.log.html
  
== 2015-04-01 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-09-02 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/_octavia_/2015/_octavia_.2015-04-01-20.00.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-09-02-16.00.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here:   http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/_octavia_/2015/_octavia_.2015-04-01-20.00.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-09-02-16.00.log.html
  
== 2015-03-25 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-08-26 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-03-25-20.00.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-08-26-16.00.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here:   http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-03-25-20.00.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-08-26-16.00.log.html
  
== 2015-03-18 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-08-19 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-03-18-20.00.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-08-19-16.00.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here:   http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-03-18-20.00.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-08-19-16.00.log.html
  
== 2015-03-11 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-08-12 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-03-11-20.00.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-08-12-16.00.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here:   http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-03-11-20.00.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-08-12-16.00.log.html
  
== 2015-03-04 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-08-05 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-03-04-20.00.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-08-05-16.00.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here:   http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-03-04-20.00.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-08-05-16.00.log.html
  
== 2015-02-25 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-07-29 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-02-25-20.01.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-07-29-16.00.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here:   http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-02-25-20.01.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-07-29-16.00.log.html
  
== 2015-02-18 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-07-22 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-02-18-20.00.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-07-22-16.00.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here:   http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-02-18-20.00.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-07-22-16.00.log.html
  
== 2015-02-11 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-07-15 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-02-11-20.00.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-07-15-16.00.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here:   http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-02-11-20.00.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-07-15-16.00.log.html
  
== 2015-01-28 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-07-08 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-01-28-20.00.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-07-08-16.00.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here:   http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-01-28-20.00.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-07-08-16.00.log.html
  
== 2015-01-21 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-07-01 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-01-21-20.00.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-07-01-16.00.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here:   http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-01-21-20.00.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-07-01-16.00.log.html
  
== 2015-01-14 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-06-24 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-01-14-20.00.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-06-24-16.00.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here:   http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-01-14-20.00.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-06-24-16.00.log.html
  
== 2015-01-07 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-06-17 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-01-07-20.03.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-06-17-16.00.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here:   http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-01-07-20.03.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-06-17-16.00.log.html
  
== 2014-12-10 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-06-10 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-12-10-20.00.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-06-10-16.00.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here:   http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-12-10-20.00.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-06-10-16.00.log.html
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== 2020-06-03 Weekly meeting: ==
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PTG sessions this week - https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/octavia-virtual-V-ptg
  
== 2014-12-03 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-05-27 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-12-03-20.00.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-05-27-16.01.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here:   http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-12-03-20.00.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-05-27-16.01.log.html
  
== 2014-11-19 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-05-20 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-11-19-19.59.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-05-20-16.00.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here:   http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-11-19-19.59.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-05-20-16.00.log.html
  
== 2014-11-12 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-05-13 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-11-12-20.15.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-05-13-16.00.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here:   http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-11-12-20.15.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-05-13-16.00.log.html
  
== 2014-10-29 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-05-06 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-10-29-20.00.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-05-06-16.01.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-10-29-20.00.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-05-06-16.01.log.html
  
== 2014-10-22 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-04-29 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-10-22-20.01.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-04-29-16.00.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-10-22-20.01.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-04-29-16.00.log.html
  
== 2014-10-15 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-04-22 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-10-15-20.00.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-04-22-16.01.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-10-15-20.00.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-04-22-16.01.log.html
  
== 2014-10-08 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-04-08 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-10-08-19.59.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-04-08-16.02.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-10-08-19.59.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-04-08-16.02.log.html
  
== 2014-10-01 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-02-19 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-10-01-20.00.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-02-19-16.01.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-10-01-20.00.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-02-19-16.01.log.html
  
== 2014-09-24 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-02-12 Weekly meeting: ==
 
This meeting was held via IRC
 
This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-09-24-19.55.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-02-12-16.00.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-09-24-19.55.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-02-12-16.00.log.html
  
== 2014-09-17 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-02-05 Weekly meeting: ==
This meeting was held via IRC.
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This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-09-17-20.00.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-02-05-16.02.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-09-17-20.00.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-02-05-16.02.log.html
  
== 2014-09-10 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-01-22 Weekly meeting: ==
This meeting was held via IRC.
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This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-09-10-20.00.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-01-22-16.00.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-09-10-20.00.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-01-22-16.00.log.html
  
== 2014-09-03 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-01-15 Weekly meeting: ==
This meeting was held via IRC.
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This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-09-03-20.00.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-01-15-16.00.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-09-03-20.00.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-01-15-16.00.log.html
  
== 2014-08-27 Weekly meeting: ==
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== 2020-01-08 Weekly meeting: ==
This meeting was held via IRC.
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This meeting was held via IRC
* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-08-27-20.00.html
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* The meeting minutes can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-01-08-16.01.txt
* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-08-27-20.00.log.html
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* Full transcripts of the meeting can be found here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2020/octavia.2020-01-08-16.01.log.html
 
 
== 2014-08-20 Weekly meeting: ==
 
# Revisit some basic features of loadbalancing as a service's object model and api.
 
## Brandon advocated Loadbalancer as only root object
 
##* The reason for root objects was for sharing.
 
## Will we allow sharing of pools in a listener?
 
##* Stephen suggests providing sharing to the customer for benefits
 
##** provides simplicity to the user
 
##** Example:  L7 rules all referencing the same pool: simpler for the user to handle it.
 
##** Without sharing there may also be a series of extra health checks that are unnecessary
 
##* German wants placement of the pool to be on the load balancer
 
##** This allows sharing pools between different listeners.
 
##** Counter argument by Stephen:  Sharing pools between HTTP/HTTPS load balancers would be really rare, where normally people would use a different port.  Adding another health check wouldn't be a big deal.  Proposed L7 policies where you have a complicated rule set causing duplication for a "or" set, would increase the health check requirement. (Refer to email in list)
 
## If we desire many to many, there will be more root objects than just load balancer.
 
##* Moving to many-to-many after establishing one root object would be difficult
 
# Get consensus on initial project direction and implementation details
 
## One HA proxy instance per load balancer or one HA proxy instance per listener?
 
##* Per ML discussion:  Keeping listener on one HA Proxy instance increases performance on one Octavia VM
 
##** Desires benchmarks for this to support  (German has this included in his next sprint)
 
##* Suggested shelving this until benchmarks are researched.
 
##* Future discussions on the ML for this decision
 
##* A concern from Vijay:  with one HA Proxy instance per listener, would that affect scalability?
 
##** This was suggested to move to the mailing list
 
# When decisions (like #2) have been made, where should this be stored, wiki or in code?
 
## Bad thing about wiki is if Openstack makes a documentation overhaul the decision information might get lost.
 
## Bad thing about code is its harder to find and read.
 
## Decision was to keep it in the Wiki.
 
# Whose responsibility is it to update the wiki with these decisions?
 
## For now, Stephen has been updating the wiki
 
## In the future, people involved in the decision will decide someone to update the wiki at the time
 
# What else is needed to change in the 0.5 design before it can be approved and implementation can begin?
 
## Action item for everyone:  Review this design before next week's meeting.  Keep in mind the document is supposed to be somewhat general.
 
# Start going over action items (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Octavia_Action_Items)
 
## Action Item for everyone:  Review the migration information proposed by Brandon.
 
## Per link above, start from 1 and move the way down the list.
 
## How can we decide who is working on what?
 
##* Get launchpad set up for octavia to allow for blueprint additions and thus allow people to contribute to a specific effort
 
## We need a list of things that are required to do and what needs hooked up how (the glue between the different pieces)
 
## What kind of communication between different components?
 
##* XMLRPC?
 
##* A REST interface?
 
##* Something different?
 
## Brandon working on Data Models and SQL Alchemy Models.
 
## Stephen working on Octavia VM API interface, including what technology to use
 
## Doug working on Skeleton Structure
 
## Brandon working on launchpad and blueprints issue as well
 
## Stephen will also prioritize this list
 
## Topics that need discussed should be expressed and discussed in the mailing list
 
## Michael Johnson working on the base image scripts
 
##* Would we use an image we've built or set it up after creation of a VM
 
##** Start with a base image with pre-packaging of Octavia scripts and such instead of Cloud init doing all the work downloading and such.  Saves time/resources.
 
##** Ideally we would have a place in the Octavia repo with a script or something that when run would create an image.
 
##* The images will potentially change based on flavoring options.
 
##** This includes custom images via customer requirements
 
 
 
=== After meeting ===
 
* Q:  Are we going to be incubated?
 
** A:  Yes, we are basically destined for incubation, period.  Note:  we will assuredly not be in Juno.
 
 
 
* Q:  Why be part of Neutron?  Why not just be our own program?
 
* A:  We want to distance ourselves from Neutron to some extent.  We will formalize this via a networking driver in Octavia.  Note: we do not want to burn any bridges here, so we want to be appropriate in our spin-out process.
 
 
 
== 2014-08-13 Weekly meeting: ==
 
# Discuss future of Octavia in light of Neutron-incubator project proposal.
 
## There are many problems with Neutron-Incubator as currently described
 
## The political happenings in Neutron leave our LBaaS patches under review unlikely to land in Juno
 
## The Incubator proposal doesn't affect Octavia development direction, with inclination to distance ourselves from Neutron proper
 
## With the Neutron Incubator proposal in current scope, efforts of people pushing forward Neutron LBaaS patches should be re-focused into Octavia.
 
# Discuss operator networking requirements (carry-over from last week)
 
## Both HP and Rackspace seem to agree that as long as Octavia uses Neutron-like floating IPs, their networks should be able to work with proposed Octavia topologies
 
## (Blue Box) also wanted to meet with Rackspace's networking team during the operator summit a few weeks from now to thoroughly discuss network concerns
 
# Discuss v0.5 component design proposal  [https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113458/]
 
## Notification for back-end node health (aka being offline) isn't required for 0.5, but is a must have later
 
## Notification of LB health (HA Proxy, etc) is definitely a requirement in 0.5
 
## Still looking for more feedback on the proposal itself
 
# Discuss timeline on moving these meetings to IRC.
 
## Most members in favor of keeping the webex meetings for the time being
 
## One major point was other openstack/stackforge use video meetings as their "primary" source as well
 
 
 
 
 
== 2014-08-06 Weekly meeting:==
 
# Octavia Constitution and Project Direction Documents (Road map)
 
## Constitution and Road map will potentially be adopted after another couple days; providing those who were busy more time to review the information
 
# Octavia Design Proposals
 
## Difference between version 0.5 and 1.0 isn't huge
 
## Version 2 has many network topology changes and Layer 4 routing
 
##* This includes N node Active-Active
 
##* Would like to avoid Layer 2 connectivity with Load Balancers (included in version 1 however)
 
##* Layer router driver
 
##* Layer router controller
 
##* Long term solution
 
## After refining Version 1 document (with some scrutiny) all changes will be propagated to the Version 2 document
 
## Version 0.5 is unpublished
 
## All control layer, anything connected to the intermediate message bus in version 1, will be collapsed down to 1 daemon.
 
##* No scale-able control, but scale-able service delivery
 
##* Version 1 will be the first large operator compatible version, that will have both scale-able control and scale-able service delivery
 
##* 0.5 will be a good start
 
##** laying out ground work
 
##** rough topology for the end users
 
##** must be approved by the networking teams for each contributing company
 
## The portions under control of neutron lbaas is the User API and the driver (for neutron lbaas)
 
## If neutron LBaaS is a sufficient front-end (user API doesn't suck), then Octavia will be kept as a vendor driver
 
## Potentially including a REST API on top of Octavia
 
##* Octavia is initially just a vendor driver, no real desire for another API in front of Octavia
 
##* If someone wants it, the work is "trivial" and can be done in another project at another time
 
## Octavia should have a loose coupling with Neutron; use a shim for network connectivity (one specifically for Neutron communication in the start)
 
##* This is going to hold any "dirty hacks" that would be required to get something done, keeping Octavia clean
 
##** Example: changing the mac address on a port
 
# Operator Network Topology Requirements
 
## One requirement is floating IPs.
 
## IPv6 is in demand, but is currently not supported reliably on Neutron
 
##* IPv6 would be represented as a different load balancer entity, and possibly include co-location with another Load Balancer
 
## Network interface plug-ability (potentially)
 
## Sections concerning front-end connectivity should be forwarded to each company's network specialists for review
 
##* Share findings in the mailing list, and dissect the proposals with the information and comment what requirements are needing added etc.
 
# HA/Failover Options/Solutions
 
## Rackspace may have a solution to this, but the conversation will be pushed off to the next meeting (at least)
 
##* Will gather more information from another member in Rackspace to provide to the ML for initial discussions
 
## One option for HA:  Spare pool option (similar to Libra)
 
##* Poor recovery time is a big problem
 
## Another option for HA:  Active/Passive
 
##* Bluebox uses one active and one passive configuration, and has sub-second fail over.  However is not resource-sufficient
 
 
 
'''Questions:'''
 
* Q:  What is the expectation for a release time-frame
 
** A:  Wishful thinking; Octavia version 0.5 beta for Juno (probably not, but would be awesome to push for that)
 
  
'''Notes:'''
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== 2020-01-01 Weekly meeting: ==
* We need to pressure the Neutron core reviewers to review the Neutron LBaaS changes to get merges.
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Cancelled due to the holidays.
* Version 2 front-end topology is different than the Version 1. Please review them individually, and thoroughly
 

Revision as of 16:26, 23 September 2020

The following page summarizes the meeting minutes from the weekly Octavia meetings.

Previous meeting logs

2020-09-23 Weekly meeting:

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2020-09-16 Weekly meeting:

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2020-08-26 Weekly meeting:

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2020-08-19 Weekly meeting:

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2020-08-05 Weekly meeting:

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2020-07-29 Weekly meeting:

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2020-07-22 Weekly meeting:

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2020-07-15 Weekly meeting:

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2020-07-08 Weekly meeting:

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2020-07-01 Weekly meeting:

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2020-06-24 Weekly meeting:

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2020-06-17 Weekly meeting:

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2020-06-10 Weekly meeting:

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2020-06-03 Weekly meeting:

PTG sessions this week - https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/octavia-virtual-V-ptg

2020-05-27 Weekly meeting:

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2020-05-20 Weekly meeting:

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2020-05-13 Weekly meeting:

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2020-05-06 Weekly meeting:

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2020-04-29 Weekly meeting:

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2020-04-22 Weekly meeting:

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2020-04-08 Weekly meeting:

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2020-02-19 Weekly meeting:

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2020-02-12 Weekly meeting:

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2020-02-05 Weekly meeting:

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2020-01-22 Weekly meeting:

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2020-01-15 Weekly meeting:

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2020-01-08 Weekly meeting:

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2020-01-01 Weekly meeting:

Cancelled due to the holidays.