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Revision as of 17:51, 25 June 2020 by Brian-rosmaita (talk | contribs) (Remove Brocade FCZM Driver?)


At the Victoria (Virtual) PTG we decided to hold two mid-cycle meetings, each two hours long. The first meeting would be before the Cinder Spec Freeze, and the second would be around the New Feature Status Checkpoint. So the mid-cycle meetings will be the week of R-16 and the week of R-9 (so as not to conflict with Kubecon, which is happening at R-8).

Session One: R-16: 24 June 2020

We met in BlueJeans from 1400 to 1600 UTC.
etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-victoria-mid-cycles
recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS8ylhbjT2s

Cinder Project Updates

New os-brick releases for stein (2.8.6) and train (2.10.4) have happened to address Bug #1883654 (fix for OSSN-0086 not working on Python 2.7). There have been some gate problems holding up the cinder releases containing the new os-brick libraries; train (15.3.0) should happen today, and stein (14.2.0) soon.

You can keep track of what's been released by looking at Launchpad:

I'm looking for a volunteer for the position of "release czar" for Cinder. You don't have to be a core contributor, you just need to be a responsible and active member of the Cinder community. Ping me in email or on IRC if you are interested in finding out more.

We agreed to try the experiment of a monthly video meeting; it will be at the regular weekly meeting time on the last Wednesday of each month (and we'll make adjustments as necessary as conflicts arise). So the first one will be 29 July. We'll take a poll about what videoconferencing software to use.


  • rosmaita - send out survey about monthly video meeting


Ivan asked for some feedback for his "Backup Backends Configuration" spec, https://review.opendev.org/#/c/712301/

His question was about the Data Model, whether he should re-purpose existing tables for volume_types, since what he needs for backup_types is very similar, or whether he should add new tables. After some discussion to the team agreed that new tables would be safer and more flexible in case volume_types and backup_types diverge as they undergo development.


Remove Brocade FCZM Driver?

The Brocade Fibre Channel Zone Manager driver was declared 'unsupported' in Ussuri and subject to removal in Victoria by https://review.opendev.org/#/c/696857/

The vendor announced no support after Train, and no intention to support python 3: https://docs.broadcom.com/doc/12397527 (warning: opens a PDF). So we're in a weird situation in Ussuri and Victoria, because the vender explicltly denounced python 3 support, and we *only* support python 3. But we don't want to be down to only 1 FCZM, so we had agreed earlier to keep the driver in-tree but marked 'unsupported' as long as we think it will run under Python 3.

Now we have evidence that initialize-connection will fail under python 3.6 (code expects a list, gets an iterator). We don't know at this point how pervasive a problem that is in the code, and we also don't have third-party CI to validate changes. But it doesn't look great for Cinder to only have one FCZM driver. Plus, we don't know how many people will be impacted by removing it.

After some discussion, we decided to do the following:

1. rosmaita will put up a patch removing the Brocade FCZM driver, but we'll mark it as WIP.

2. Gorka will try to find some time to look into it and see if he can fix it. If he can't we'll go ahead and remove it.

3. In the meantime, rosmaita will send a note to the ML explaining the situation and that there's a removal patch and a date; hopefully, impacted people will speak up and let us know.

4. We will review the situation at part 2 of the mid-cycle (which is in roughly 7 weeks).


  • rosmaita - put up WIP removal patch
  • rosmaita - email to ML
  • geguileo - assess the fixability of the driver
  • anyone interested - contact geguileo to find out what you can do to help

Volume List Query Optimization

Support Revert to Any Snapshot

Victoria Milestone-1 Review