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The OpenStack Networking Team ([[Neutron]]) holds public meetings as advertised on [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Neutron_Team_Meeting OpenStack IRC Meetings Calendar]. If you are unable to attend, please check the most recent [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/ logs.]
  
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'''Ping list''': bcafarel, elvira, frickler, mlavalle, mtomaska, slaweq, ykarel, lajoskatona, jlibosva, haleyb, ralonsoh
'''Meeting time: The OpenStack Networking Team ([[Neutron]]) holds public meetings alternating between Mondays at 2100 UTC (#openstack-meeting) and Tuesdays at 1400 UTC (#openstack-meeting). Everyone is encouraged to attend.'''
 
  
== Apologies for Absence ==
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=== Announcements / Reminders ===
* Edgar Magana 3/24 (emagana)
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* Hibiscus/2026.2 release in progress
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** We are currently in Week R-12
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** Last week was the Hibiscus-2 milestone (July 2nd)
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*** https://releases.openstack.org/hibiscus/schedule.html
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** Release countdown email:
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*** https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/2YHRMYKMAYCV7BRCL6IPV5HMS56NAM7Q/
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* PTG
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** "I" PTG October 12-16, 2026
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** PTG Website: https://openinfra.org/ptg/
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** Neutron etherpad:
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*** TBD
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** Hibiscus PTG etherpad:
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*** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/apr2026-ptg-neutron
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** Link to all etherpads
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*** https://ptg.opendev.org/etherpads.html
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* Reminder: If you have a topic for the drivers meeting on Friday, please add it to the wiki @ https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NeutronDrivers
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* Let's continue to use the priorities dashboard for patches in the "ready to merge" state. This could be older changes as well as new ones
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** [https://review.opendev.org/dashboard/?title=Neutron+Priorities+Dashboard&foreach=(project:openstack/neutron+OR+project:openstack/neutron-lib+OR+project:openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin+OR+project:openstack/python-neutronclient+OR+project:openstack/neutron-specs+OR+project:openstack/networking-bagpipe+OR+project:openstack/networking-bgpvpn+OR+project:openstack/networking-odl+OR+project:openstack/networking-ovn+OR+project:openstack/networking-sfc+OR+project:openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing+OR+project:openstack/neutron-fwaas+OR+project:openstack/neutron-fwaas-dashboard+OR+project:openstack/neutron-vpnaas+OR+project:openstack/neutron-vpnaas-dashboard+OR+project:openstack/os-ken+OR+project:openstack/ovsdbapp)+status:open&High+Priority+Changes=label:Review-Priority=2&Priority+Changes=label:Review-Priority=1&Blocked+Reviews=label:Review-Priority=-1 Neutron Priority Dashboard]
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* Past cycle PTG links
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** Hibiscus/2026.2 PTG: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/apr2026-ptg-neutron
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** Gazpacho/2026.1 PTG: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/oct2025-ptg-neutron
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** Flamingo/2025.2 PTG: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/apr2025-ptg-neutron
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** Epoxy/2025.1 PTG: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/oct2024-ptg-neutron
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** Dalmatian/2024.2 PTG: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/apr2024-ptg-neutron
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** Caracal/2024.1 PTG: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/oct2023-ptg-neutron
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* 2024.2 (Dalmatian) transitioned to EOL
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** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22dalmatian-eol%22
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* 2024.1 (Caracal)/2023.1 (Antelope)/Zed/Yoga/Xena/Wallaby/Victoria have transitioned to Unmaintained
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** https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/V7H6M5ANYOMFWSZ5BJSWAXVNQCUXI6D7/
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* 2024.2 (Dalmatian)/2023.2 (Bobcat)/Ussuri/Train have transitioned to EOL
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** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bobcat-stable%22
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** https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/UJ7Y76LRWTZQSSDAGMPWCCVVGGIX3TOG/
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* Old items
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** Ironic email
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*** https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/5SX35AQZ65G6HWQ7WARLJTJK3ASAOWNU/
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*** We discussed this in the Drivers meeting
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**** https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2024/neutron_drivers.2024-04-26-14.01.log.html
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**** Miguel will be point person
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**** If there is any impact or changes required in neutron it will be communicated
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**** Left open possibility of a new library, but need more investigation
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* Permanent links:
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** OpenInfra Live event - https://openinfra.dev/live/#all-episodes - there are some interesting presentations there, maybe people are interested in some of them
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=== Bugs and Gate issues ===
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* Report from lajoskatona:
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** https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/6NDQ5JKYR6KONRBYFUPG4QAXTADUVLF7/
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* Bugs without assignee or to be commented:
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** See report
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* This week ralonsoh is the bug deputy, next week will be ichen
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* Current bug count this week: 582, up 9 over last week
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** [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on All neutron bugs]
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* Bug squash etherpad - contains old bugs that need to be inspected and closed
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** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/dalmatian-neutron-bug-squash
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** (haleyb) refreshed on December 15th, 2025
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* More discussion on this topic takes place during the Neutron CI meeting: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NeutronCI
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* [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.tag=gate-failure Confirmed gate failures]
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* [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=needs-attention Bugs that need attention]
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* [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=OPINION&field.status%3Alist=INVALID&field.status%3Alist=WONTFIX&field.status%3Alist=EXPIRED&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=FIXRELEASED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.tag=deprecation All bug reports associated to deprecation issues]
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* [https://goo.gl/KtEwbL Bugs Sheet]
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* [http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate Grafana dashboards]
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==== Bug deputy ====
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You can find more information about what the role is here: https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/contributor/policies/bugs.html#neutron-bug-deputy. During the Denver PTG we made the decision to institute a fixed rotation for the the bugs deputy role. The currently scheduled rotation is the following:
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
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|-
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! Date !! who !! note
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|-
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| 2026-7-6 || Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez (ralonsoh) ||
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|-
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| 2026-7-13 || Helen Chen (ichen) ||
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|-
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| 2026-7-20 || Jakub Libosvar (jlibosva) ||
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|-
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| 2026-7-27 || Yatin Karel (ykarel) ||
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|-
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| 2026-8-3 || Terry Wilson (otherwiseguy) ||
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|-
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| 2026-8-10 || Miro Tomaska (mtomaska) ||
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|-
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| 2026-8-17 || Bernard Cafarelli (bcafarel) ||
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|-
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| 2026-8-24 || Elvira García Ruiz (elvira) ||
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|-
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| 2026-8-31 || Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) ||
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|-
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| 2026-9-7 || Brian Haley (haleyb) ||
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|-
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| 2026-9-14 || Bence Romsics (rubasov)  ||
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|-
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| 2026-9-21 || Miguel Lavalle (mlavalle) ||
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|-
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| 2026-9-28 || Lajos Katona (lajoskatona) ||
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|}
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In preparation for their duty week, deputies are encouraged to review the Neutron bugs policy: https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/contributor/policies/bugs.html
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=== ryu os-ken ===
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* To move os-ken from https://storyboard.openstack.org/ to launchpad
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** (former) Story board to track ryu backports: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2009283
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* Active os-ken patches: https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/os-ken+status:open
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=== Specs ===
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* Specs: https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack%252Fneutron-specs+status:open
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* Open reviews:
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** https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/neutron-specs+status:open
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**
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* Spec development in progress:
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**
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* Previous cycle specs:
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** OVN agent BGP extension
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*** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bug/2111276%22
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=== Community Goals ===
  
== Agenda for Next Neutron Team Meeting ==
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* Last TC meeting summary:
'''Monday (3/16/2015) at 2100 UTC on #openstack-meeting'''
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** https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2026/tc.2026-06-16-17.01.log.html
  
=== Announcements / Reminders ===
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* Current Selected (Active) Goals:
* Kilo dates to be aware of:
 
** Feature, String, and Dependency Freeze: March 19
 
** RCs: April 9-23
 
** Kilo release: April 30
 
** https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings
 
* Kilo-3 LP page:
 
** https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/kilo-3
 
* OpenStack Client IRC meetings
 
** Thursdays at 19:00 UTC in #openstack-meeting
 
** https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/OpenStackClient#Next_Meeting_Agenda
 
** Since we want to deprecate the client, would be great to get a representative to attend these
 
* Neutron Policies are documented here:
 
** https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NeutronPolicies
 
  
=== Bugs ===
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** Neutron client deprecation
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*** https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1999774
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*** Agenda: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/python-neutronclient_deprecation
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*** Active patches to review:
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**** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bug/1999774%22
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**** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bug/1999774%22+status:open+project:openstack/python-openstackclient+or+status:open+owner:self+project:openstack/openstacksdk
  
<br>
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** Change callers to use neutron openstacksdk code
Important bugs:
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*** Heat:
** [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1432065] DBDeadlock: (OperationalError) (1213, 'Deadlock found when trying to get lock; try restarting transaction') 'DELETE FROM ipallocationpools WHERE ipallocationpools.id
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**** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%2522neutron_openstacksdk%2522
** [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1419723] DBDuplicateEntry when creating secgroup
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*** Nova:
** [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1359523] Security group rules errorneously applied to all ports having same ip addresses in different networks
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**** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22sdk_for_neutron%22
** [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1335375] ping still working after security group rule is created, updated, or deleted (related to previous one)
 
  
<br/>
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** Neutron project_id migration/tenant_id removal
These bugs are in nova but are related to neutron. It would be great if we could get neutron reviews on:
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*** Active patches to review:
** Merged [https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80760/] Remove unneeded call to fetch network info on shutdown - arosen
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**** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22neutron-project-id-migration%22
** Merged [https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81674/] remove unneeded call to network_api on detach_interface - arosen
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*** These have to merge in a specific order, first:
** Merged [https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81681/] remove unneeded call to network_api on rebuild_instance - arosen
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**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/992536 (change remaining sdk code to use project_id) (merged)
** Merged [https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80055/] Optimize validate_networks to query neutron only when needed - arosen
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**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tempest/+/991754 (change some neutron code to use project_id)
** [https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80412/] deallocate_for_instance should delete all neutron ports on error - arosen
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**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/+/987959 (remove usage of tenant_id) (merged)
** [https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59578/] Fix port_security_enabled neutron extension - arosen
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**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/991948 (this requires some of the above sdk work to merge as well)
** [https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77043/] Fix pre-created ports in neutron from being deleted by nova - arosen
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*** Then this:
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**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/986961 (temporarily stop using neutron-lib project_info/attribute code)
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*** Then this:
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**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/986962 (add project_id to all API attributes and remove tenant_id)
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*** Then this:
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**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-lib/+/986960 (add project_id to all API attributes and remove tenant_id)
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*** A follow-on is required after neutron-lib is released to change back to using it's attribute code that was removed in 986961:
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**** TBD
  
=== Docs (emagana)===
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* Past Goals:
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** Eventlet removal - DONE
  
Open Items for Kilo: (feedback needed)
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=== Neutron-lib, planned refactoring and other impacts ===
* Legacy scenario OVS: https://github.com/ionosphere80/openstack-networking-guide/blob/master/scenario-legacy-ovs/scenario-legacy-ovs.md
 
* Legacy scenario LB: https://github.com/ionosphere80/openstack-networking-guide/blob/master/scenario-legacy-lb/scenario-legacy-lb.md
 
* New networking diagrams for DVR: https://github.com/ionosphere80/openstack-networking-guide/blob/master/scenario-dvr/scenario-dvr.md
 
  
Networking Guide:
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* Started python type annotation in neutron (discussed in last PTG)
* ToC: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NetworkingGuide/TOC
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** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/929864/
* Gerrit: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/master/doc/networking-guide
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** Other patches in series
* Minutes from 1/30/15 meeting: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2015-January/005776.html
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* Type annotation on neutron-lib
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** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22type_tooling%22
  
 
=== On Demand Agenda ===
 
=== On Demand Agenda ===
* Kilo-RC1 FF Specs
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** Lets go over these and ensure we think we can merge them
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We can only pick one or two topics we can talk about in the time left of the meeting. People should add ideas to the topics section. We will select one or two topics we can discuss during the next meeting. Please follow the template below:
** https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/kilo-rc1
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* MTU and vlan_transparency closure
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* July 7th:
** Armando filed two bugs, lets make sure we move discussion there but highlight how we want to fix these
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** (ralonsoh): Introduce agentic workflows and definitions for Neutron development (https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2159618)
** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1434667
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** (ralonsoh):  Remove dead DB migration code for tables that are created and immediately dropped (https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2160021)
** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1434671
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* Plugin Decomposition Status and Updates
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* July 14th:
** Update from Ihar on packagers dealing with decomposition
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** (nick): topic
** Spec is published here: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/kilo/core-vendor-decomposition.html
 
** Status updates and timelines
 
* Nova-Network to Neutron Migration
 
** anteaya to give an update (http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-December/053355.html)
 
* Neutron as the default in DevStack
 
** We need to document and create a single interface configuration - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153208/
 
* Pylint -- In or out?
 
** We don't seem to have consensus on the value of pylint, leading to mixed review feedback. Let's decide.
 
* DVR
 
** Multi-node vs Single-node, voting vs non-voting
 
* LBaaS
 
** Horizon Panel Use Cases: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/LBaaS_Horizon_Use_Cases
 
  
 
== Previous meeting logs ==
 
== Previous meeting logs ==
 
* Previous meetings, with their notes and logs, can be found [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/ here].
 
* Previous meetings, with their notes and logs, can be found [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/ here].
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** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2026/?C=M;O=D networking-2026]
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** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2025/?C=M;O=D networking-2025]
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** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2024/?C=M;O=D networking-2024]
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** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2023/?C=M;O=D networking-2023]
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** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2022/?C=M;O=D networking-2022]
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** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2021/?C=M;O=D networking-2021]
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** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2020/?C=M;O=D networking-2020]
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** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2019/?C=M;O=D networking-2019]
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** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2018/?C=M;O=D networking-2018]
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** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/?C=M;O=D networking-2017]
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** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/?C=M;O=D networking-2016]
 
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/?C=M;O=D networking-2015]
 
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/?C=M;O=D networking-2015]
 
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/?C=M;O=D networking-2014]
 
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/?C=M;O=D networking-2014]
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** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2013/?C=M;O=D quantum-2013]
 
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2013/?C=M;O=D quantum-2013]
 
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2012/?C=M;O=D quantum-2012]
 
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2012/?C=M;O=D quantum-2012]
* Older meeting notes are here:  ../MeetingLogs.
 

Latest revision as of 12:19, 7 July 2026

The OpenStack Networking Team (Neutron) holds public meetings as advertised on OpenStack IRC Meetings Calendar. If you are unable to attend, please check the most recent logs.

Ping list: bcafarel, elvira, frickler, mlavalle, mtomaska, slaweq, ykarel, lajoskatona, jlibosva, haleyb, ralonsoh

Announcements / Reminders

  • Let's continue to use the priorities dashboard for patches in the "ready to merge" state. This could be older changes as well as new ones

Bugs and Gate issues

  • Bugs without assignee or to be commented:
    • See report
  • This week ralonsoh is the bug deputy, next week will be ichen

Bug deputy

You can find more information about what the role is here: https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/contributor/policies/bugs.html#neutron-bug-deputy. During the Denver PTG we made the decision to institute a fixed rotation for the the bugs deputy role. The currently scheduled rotation is the following:

Date who note
2026-7-6 Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez (ralonsoh)
2026-7-13 Helen Chen (ichen)
2026-7-20 Jakub Libosvar (jlibosva)
2026-7-27 Yatin Karel (ykarel)
2026-8-3 Terry Wilson (otherwiseguy)
2026-8-10 Miro Tomaska (mtomaska)
2026-8-17 Bernard Cafarelli (bcafarel)
2026-8-24 Elvira García Ruiz (elvira)
2026-8-31 Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)
2026-9-7 Brian Haley (haleyb)
2026-9-14 Bence Romsics (rubasov)
2026-9-21 Miguel Lavalle (mlavalle)
2026-9-28 Lajos Katona (lajoskatona)

In preparation for their duty week, deputies are encouraged to review the Neutron bugs policy: https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/contributor/policies/bugs.html

ryu os-ken

Specs

Community Goals

  • Current Selected (Active) Goals:
  • Past Goals:
    • Eventlet removal - DONE

Neutron-lib, planned refactoring and other impacts

On Demand Agenda

We can only pick one or two topics we can talk about in the time left of the meeting. People should add ideas to the topics section. We will select one or two topics we can discuss during the next meeting. Please follow the template below:

  • July 14th:
    • (nick): topic

Previous meeting logs