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Meetings/NeutronDrivers

2026-07-07T13:30:14Z

Rodolfo Alonso: /* Agenda */

Network/Meetings

2026-07-07T09:52:21Z

Rodolfo Alonso: /* On Demand Agenda */

The OpenStack Networking Team ([[Neutron]]) holds public meetings as advertised on [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Neutron_Team_Meeting OpenStack IRC Meetings Calendar]. If you are unable to attend, please check the most recent [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/ logs.]

'''Ping list''': bcafarel, elvira, frickler, mlavalle, mtomaska, slaweq, ykarel, lajoskatona, jlibosva, haleyb, ralonsoh

=== Announcements / Reminders ===

* Hibiscus/2026.2 release in progress
** We are currently in Week R-14
** Next week is the Hibiscus-2 milestone (July 2nd)
*** https://releases.openstack.org/hibiscus/schedule.html
** Release countdown email:
*** https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/2YHRMYKMAYCV7BRCL6IPV5HMS56NAM7Q/

* PTG
** Hibiscus PTG April 20-24, 2026
** PTG Website: https://openinfra.org/ptg/
** Neutron etherpad:
*** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/apr2026-ptg-neutron
** Link to all etherpads
*** https://ptg.opendev.org/etherpads.html

* Reminder: If you have a topic for the drivers meeting on Friday, please add it to the wiki @ https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NeutronDrivers

* Let's continue to use the priorities dashboard for patches in the "ready to merge" state. This could be older changes as well as new ones
** [https://review.opendev.org/dashboard/?title=Neutron+Priorities+Dashboard&foreach=(project:openstack/neutron+OR+project:openstack/neutron-lib+OR+project:openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin+OR+project:openstack/python-neutronclient+OR+project:openstack/neutron-specs+OR+project:openstack/networking-bagpipe+OR+project:openstack/networking-bgpvpn+OR+project:openstack/networking-odl+OR+project:openstack/networking-ovn+OR+project:openstack/networking-sfc+OR+project:openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing+OR+project:openstack/neutron-fwaas+OR+project:openstack/neutron-fwaas-dashboard+OR+project:openstack/neutron-vpnaas+OR+project:openstack/neutron-vpnaas-dashboard+OR+project:openstack/os-ken+OR+project:openstack/ovsdbapp)+status:open&High+Priority+Changes=label:Review-Priority=2&Priority+Changes=label:Review-Priority=1&Blocked+Reviews=label:Review-Priority=-1 Neutron Priority Dashboard]

* Past cycle PTG links
** Gazpacho/2026.1 PTG: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/oct2025-ptg-neutron
** Flamingo/2025.2 PTG: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/apr2025-ptg-neutron
** Epoxy/2025.1 PTG: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/oct2024-ptg-neutron
** Dalmatian/2024.2 PTG: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/apr2024-ptg-neutron
** Caracal/2024.1 PTG: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/oct2023-ptg-neutron

* 2024.2 (Dalmatian) transitioned to EOL
** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22dalmatian-eol%22

* 2024.1 (Caracal)/2023.1 (Antelope)/Zed/Yoga/Xena/Wallaby/Victoria have transitioned to Unmaintained
** https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/V7H6M5ANYOMFWSZ5BJSWAXVNQCUXI6D7/

* 2024.2 (Dalmatian)/2023.2 (Bobcat)/Ussuri/Train have transitioned to EOL
** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bobcat-stable%22
** https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/UJ7Y76LRWTZQSSDAGMPWCCVVGGIX3TOG/

* Old items
** Ironic email
*** https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/5SX35AQZ65G6HWQ7WARLJTJK3ASAOWNU/
*** We discussed this in the Drivers meeting
**** https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2024/neutron_drivers.2024-04-26-14.01.log.html
**** Miguel will be point person
**** If there is any impact or changes required in neutron it will be communicated
**** Left open possibility of a new library, but need more investigation

* Permanent links:
** OpenInfra Live event - https://openinfra.dev/live/#all-episodes - there are some interesting presentations there, maybe people are interested in some of them

=== Bugs and Gate issues ===

* Report from rubasov:
** https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/DRRS2RA3Z4KDSR5HXMBVXYRYRR2DYK6W/

* Bugs without assignee or to be commented:
** See report

* This week mlavalle is the bug deputy, next week will be lajoskatona

* Current bug count this week: 573, down 2 over last week
** [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on All neutron bugs]

* Bug squash etherpad - contains old bugs that need to be inspected and closed
** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/dalmatian-neutron-bug-squash
** (haleyb) refreshed on December 15th, 2025

* More discussion on this topic takes place during the Neutron CI meeting: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NeutronCI

* [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.tag=gate-failure Confirmed gate failures]
* [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=needs-attention Bugs that need attention]
* [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=OPINION&field.status%3Alist=INVALID&field.status%3Alist=WONTFIX&field.status%3Alist=EXPIRED&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=FIXRELEASED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.tag=deprecation All bug reports associated to deprecation issues]
* [https://goo.gl/KtEwbL Bugs Sheet]
* [http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate Grafana dashboards]

==== Bug deputy ====

You can find more information about what the role is here: https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/contributor/policies/bugs.html#neutron-bug-deputy. During the Denver PTG we made the decision to institute a fixed rotation for the the bugs deputy role. The currently scheduled rotation is the following:
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
|-
! Date !! who !! note
|-
| 2026-6-22 || Miguel Lavalle (mlavalle) ||
|-
| 2026-6-29 || Lajos Katona (lajoskatona) ||
|-
| 2026-7-6 || Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez (ralonsoh) ||
|-
| 2026-7-13 || Helen Chen (ichen) ||
|-
| 2026-7-20 || Jakub Libosvar (jlibosva) ||
|-
| 2026-7-27 || Yatin Karel (ykarel) ||
|-
| 2026-8-3 || Terry Wilson (otherwiseguy) ||
|-
| 2026-8-10 || Miro Tomaska (mtomaska) ||
|-
| 2026-8-17 || Bernard Cafarelli (bcafarel) ||
|-
| 2026-8-24 || Elvira García Ruiz (elvira) ||
|-
| 2026-8-31 || Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) ||
|-
| 2026-9-7 || Brian Haley (haleyb) ||
|-
| 2026-9-14 || Bence Romsics (rubasov) ||
|}

In preparation for their duty week, deputies are encouraged to review the Neutron bugs policy: https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/contributor/policies/bugs.html

=== ryu os-ken ===

* To move os-ken from https://storyboard.openstack.org/ to launchpad
** (former) Story board to track ryu backports: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2009283

* Active os-ken patches: https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/os-ken+status:open

=== Specs ===

* Specs: https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack%252Fneutron-specs+status:open
* Open reviews:
** https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/neutron-specs+status:open
**
* Spec development in progress:
**
* Previous cycle specs:
** OVN agent BGP extension
*** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bug/2111276%22

=== Community Goals ===

* Last TC meeting summary:
** https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2026/tc.2026-06-16-17.01.log.html

* Current Selected (Active) Goals:

** Neutron client deprecation
*** https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1999774
*** Agenda: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/python-neutronclient_deprecation
*** Active patches to review:
**** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bug/1999774%22
**** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bug/1999774%22+status:open+project:openstack/python-openstackclient+or+status:open+owner:self+project:openstack/openstacksdk

** Change callers to use neutron openstacksdk code
*** Heat:
**** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%2522neutron_openstacksdk%2522
*** Nova:
**** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22sdk_for_neutron%22

** Neutron project_id migration/tenant_id removal
*** Active patches to review:
**** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22neutron-project-id-migration%22
*** These have to merge in a specific order, first:
**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/992536 (change remaining sdk code to use project_id) (merged)
**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tempest/+/991754 (change some neutron code to use project_id)
**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/+/987959 (remove usage of tenant_id) (merged)
**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/991948 (this requires some of the above sdk work to merge as well)
*** Then this:
**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/986961 (temporarily stop using neutron-lib project_info/attribute code)
*** Then this:
**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/986962 (add project_id to all API attributes and remove tenant_id)
*** Then this:
**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-lib/+/986960 (add project_id to all API attributes and remove tenant_id)
*** A follow-on is required after neutron-lib is released to change back to using it's attribute code that was removed in 986961:
**** TBD

* Past Goals:
** Eventlet removal - DONE

=== Neutron-lib, planned refactoring and other impacts ===

* Started python type annotation in neutron (discussed in last PTG)
** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/929864/
** Other patches in series
* Type annotation on neutron-lib
** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22type_tooling%22

=== On Demand Agenda ===

We can only pick one or two topics we can talk about in the time left of the meeting. People should add ideas to the topics section. We will select one or two topics we can discuss during the next meeting. Please follow the template below:

* July 7th:
** (ralonsoh): Introduce agentic workflows and definitions for Neutron development (https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2159618)
** (ralonsoh): Remove dead DB migration code for tables that are created and immediately dropped (https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2160021)

== Previous meeting logs ==
* Previous meetings, with their notes and logs, can be found [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/ here].
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2026/?C=M;O=D networking-2026]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2025/?C=M;O=D networking-2025]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2024/?C=M;O=D networking-2024]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2023/?C=M;O=D networking-2023]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2022/?C=M;O=D networking-2022]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2021/?C=M;O=D networking-2021]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2020/?C=M;O=D networking-2020]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2019/?C=M;O=D networking-2019]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2018/?C=M;O=D networking-2018]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/?C=M;O=D networking-2017]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/?C=M;O=D networking-2016]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/?C=M;O=D networking-2015]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/?C=M;O=D networking-2014]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/?C=M;O=D networking-2013]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2013/?C=M;O=D quantum-2013]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2012/?C=M;O=D quantum-2012]

Network/Meetings

2026-07-06T09:36:55Z

Rodolfo Alonso: /* On Demand Agenda */

The OpenStack Networking Team ([[Neutron]]) holds public meetings as advertised on [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Neutron_Team_Meeting OpenStack IRC Meetings Calendar]. If you are unable to attend, please check the most recent [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/ logs.]

'''Ping list''': bcafarel, elvira, frickler, mlavalle, mtomaska, slaweq, ykarel, lajoskatona, jlibosva, haleyb, ralonsoh

=== Announcements / Reminders ===

* Hibiscus/2026.2 release in progress
** We are currently in Week R-14
** Next week is the Hibiscus-2 milestone (July 2nd)
*** https://releases.openstack.org/hibiscus/schedule.html
** Release countdown email:
*** https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/2YHRMYKMAYCV7BRCL6IPV5HMS56NAM7Q/

* PTG
** Hibiscus PTG April 20-24, 2026
** PTG Website: https://openinfra.org/ptg/
** Neutron etherpad:
*** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/apr2026-ptg-neutron
** Link to all etherpads
*** https://ptg.opendev.org/etherpads.html

* Reminder: If you have a topic for the drivers meeting on Friday, please add it to the wiki @ https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NeutronDrivers

* Let's continue to use the priorities dashboard for patches in the "ready to merge" state. This could be older changes as well as new ones
** [https://review.opendev.org/dashboard/?title=Neutron+Priorities+Dashboard&foreach=(project:openstack/neutron+OR+project:openstack/neutron-lib+OR+project:openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin+OR+project:openstack/python-neutronclient+OR+project:openstack/neutron-specs+OR+project:openstack/networking-bagpipe+OR+project:openstack/networking-bgpvpn+OR+project:openstack/networking-odl+OR+project:openstack/networking-ovn+OR+project:openstack/networking-sfc+OR+project:openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing+OR+project:openstack/neutron-fwaas+OR+project:openstack/neutron-fwaas-dashboard+OR+project:openstack/neutron-vpnaas+OR+project:openstack/neutron-vpnaas-dashboard+OR+project:openstack/os-ken+OR+project:openstack/ovsdbapp)+status:open&High+Priority+Changes=label:Review-Priority=2&Priority+Changes=label:Review-Priority=1&Blocked+Reviews=label:Review-Priority=-1 Neutron Priority Dashboard]

* Past cycle PTG links
** Gazpacho/2026.1 PTG: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/oct2025-ptg-neutron
** Flamingo/2025.2 PTG: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/apr2025-ptg-neutron
** Epoxy/2025.1 PTG: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/oct2024-ptg-neutron
** Dalmatian/2024.2 PTG: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/apr2024-ptg-neutron
** Caracal/2024.1 PTG: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/oct2023-ptg-neutron

* 2024.2 (Dalmatian) transitioned to EOL
** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22dalmatian-eol%22

* 2024.1 (Caracal)/2023.1 (Antelope)/Zed/Yoga/Xena/Wallaby/Victoria have transitioned to Unmaintained
** https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/V7H6M5ANYOMFWSZ5BJSWAXVNQCUXI6D7/

* 2024.2 (Dalmatian)/2023.2 (Bobcat)/Ussuri/Train have transitioned to EOL
** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bobcat-stable%22
** https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/UJ7Y76LRWTZQSSDAGMPWCCVVGGIX3TOG/

* Old items
** Ironic email
*** https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/5SX35AQZ65G6HWQ7WARLJTJK3ASAOWNU/
*** We discussed this in the Drivers meeting
**** https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2024/neutron_drivers.2024-04-26-14.01.log.html
**** Miguel will be point person
**** If there is any impact or changes required in neutron it will be communicated
**** Left open possibility of a new library, but need more investigation

* Permanent links:
** OpenInfra Live event - https://openinfra.dev/live/#all-episodes - there are some interesting presentations there, maybe people are interested in some of them

=== Bugs and Gate issues ===

* Report from rubasov:
** https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/DRRS2RA3Z4KDSR5HXMBVXYRYRR2DYK6W/

* Bugs without assignee or to be commented:
** See report

* This week mlavalle is the bug deputy, next week will be lajoskatona

* Current bug count this week: 573, down 2 over last week
** [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on All neutron bugs]

* Bug squash etherpad - contains old bugs that need to be inspected and closed
** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/dalmatian-neutron-bug-squash
** (haleyb) refreshed on December 15th, 2025

* More discussion on this topic takes place during the Neutron CI meeting: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NeutronCI

* [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.tag=gate-failure Confirmed gate failures]
* [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=needs-attention Bugs that need attention]
* [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=OPINION&field.status%3Alist=INVALID&field.status%3Alist=WONTFIX&field.status%3Alist=EXPIRED&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=FIXRELEASED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.tag=deprecation All bug reports associated to deprecation issues]
* [https://goo.gl/KtEwbL Bugs Sheet]
* [http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate Grafana dashboards]

==== Bug deputy ====

You can find more information about what the role is here: https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/contributor/policies/bugs.html#neutron-bug-deputy. During the Denver PTG we made the decision to institute a fixed rotation for the the bugs deputy role. The currently scheduled rotation is the following:
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
|-
! Date !! who !! note
|-
| 2026-6-22 || Miguel Lavalle (mlavalle) ||
|-
| 2026-6-29 || Lajos Katona (lajoskatona) ||
|-
| 2026-7-6 || Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez (ralonsoh) ||
|-
| 2026-7-13 || Helen Chen (ichen) ||
|-
| 2026-7-20 || Jakub Libosvar (jlibosva) ||
|-
| 2026-7-27 || Yatin Karel (ykarel) ||
|-
| 2026-8-3 || Terry Wilson (otherwiseguy) ||
|-
| 2026-8-10 || Miro Tomaska (mtomaska) ||
|-
| 2026-8-17 || Bernard Cafarelli (bcafarel) ||
|-
| 2026-8-24 || Elvira García Ruiz (elvira) ||
|-
| 2026-8-31 || Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) ||
|-
| 2026-9-7 || Brian Haley (haleyb) ||
|-
| 2026-9-14 || Bence Romsics (rubasov) ||
|}

In preparation for their duty week, deputies are encouraged to review the Neutron bugs policy: https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/contributor/policies/bugs.html

=== ryu os-ken ===

* To move os-ken from https://storyboard.openstack.org/ to launchpad
** (former) Story board to track ryu backports: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2009283

* Active os-ken patches: https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/os-ken+status:open

=== Specs ===

* Specs: https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack%252Fneutron-specs+status:open
* Open reviews:
** https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/neutron-specs+status:open
**
* Spec development in progress:
**
* Previous cycle specs:
** OVN agent BGP extension
*** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bug/2111276%22

=== Community Goals ===

* Last TC meeting summary:
** https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2026/tc.2026-06-16-17.01.log.html

* Current Selected (Active) Goals:

** Neutron client deprecation
*** https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1999774
*** Agenda: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/python-neutronclient_deprecation
*** Active patches to review:
**** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bug/1999774%22
**** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bug/1999774%22+status:open+project:openstack/python-openstackclient+or+status:open+owner:self+project:openstack/openstacksdk

** Change callers to use neutron openstacksdk code
*** Heat:
**** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%2522neutron_openstacksdk%2522
*** Nova:
**** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22sdk_for_neutron%22

** Neutron project_id migration/tenant_id removal
*** Active patches to review:
**** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22neutron-project-id-migration%22
*** These have to merge in a specific order, first:
**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/992536 (change remaining sdk code to use project_id) (merged)
**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tempest/+/991754 (change some neutron code to use project_id)
**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/+/987959 (remove usage of tenant_id) (merged)
**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/991948 (this requires some of the above sdk work to merge as well)
*** Then this:
**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/986961 (temporarily stop using neutron-lib project_info/attribute code)
*** Then this:
**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/986962 (add project_id to all API attributes and remove tenant_id)
*** Then this:
**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-lib/+/986960 (add project_id to all API attributes and remove tenant_id)
*** A follow-on is required after neutron-lib is released to change back to using it's attribute code that was removed in 986961:
**** TBD

* Past Goals:
** Eventlet removal - DONE

=== Neutron-lib, planned refactoring and other impacts ===

* Started python type annotation in neutron (discussed in last PTG)
** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/929864/
** Other patches in series
* Type annotation on neutron-lib
** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22type_tooling%22

=== On Demand Agenda ===

We can only pick one or two topics we can talk about in the time left of the meeting. People should add ideas to the topics section. We will select one or two topics we can discuss during the next meeting. Please follow the template below:

* July 7th:
** (ralonsoh): Introduce agentic workflows and definitions for Neutron development (https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2159618)

== Previous meeting logs ==
* Previous meetings, with their notes and logs, can be found [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/ here].
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2026/?C=M;O=D networking-2026]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2025/?C=M;O=D networking-2025]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2024/?C=M;O=D networking-2024]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2023/?C=M;O=D networking-2023]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2022/?C=M;O=D networking-2022]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2021/?C=M;O=D networking-2021]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2020/?C=M;O=D networking-2020]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2019/?C=M;O=D networking-2019]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2018/?C=M;O=D networking-2018]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/?C=M;O=D networking-2017]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/?C=M;O=D networking-2016]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/?C=M;O=D networking-2015]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/?C=M;O=D networking-2014]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/?C=M;O=D networking-2013]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2013/?C=M;O=D quantum-2013]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2012/?C=M;O=D quantum-2012]

Meetings/NeutronDrivers

2026-07-03T13:02:31Z

Rodolfo Alonso: /* Agenda */

2026-02-20T12:28:07Z

Rodolfo Alonso: /* Agenda */

Meetings/NeutronDrivers

2026-02-18T08:22:35Z

Rodolfo Alonso: /* Agenda */

Rodolfo Alonso: /* On Demand Agenda */

The OpenStack Networking Team ([[Neutron]]) holds public meetings as advertised on [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Neutron_Team_Meeting OpenStack IRC Meetings Calendar]. If you are unable to attend, please check the most recent [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/ logs.]

'''Ping list''': bcafarel, elvira, frickler, mlavalle, mtomaska, obondarev, slaweq, tobias-urdin, ykarel, lajoskatona, jlibosva, averdagu, haleyb, ralonsoh, sahid

=== Announcements / Reminders ===

* Flamingo/2025.2 cycle schedule
** https://releases.openstack.org/flamingo/schedule.html
** We are currently in Week R-19
** Last week was Flamingo-1 milestone
** Final 2025.2 Flamingo release: October 3rd, 2025

* PTG for Flamingo/2025.2 cycle
** https://ptg.openinfra.dev/
** April 7-11, 2025 (done)
** Please see etherpad for discussion notes
*** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/apr2025-ptg-neutron

* Reminder: If you have a topic for the drivers meeting on Friday, please add it to the wiki @ https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NeutronDrivers

* Let's continue to use the priorities dashboard for patches in the "ready to merge" state. This could be older changes as well as new ones
** [https://review.opendev.org/dashboard/?title=Neutron+Priorities+Dashboard&foreach=(project:openstack/neutron+OR+project:openstack/neutron-lib+OR+project:openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin+OR+project:openstack/python-neutronclient+OR+project:openstack/neutron-specs+OR+project:openstack/networking-bagpipe+OR+project:openstack/networking-bgpvpn+OR+project:openstack/networking-odl+OR+project:openstack/networking-ovn+OR+project:openstack/networking-sfc+OR+project:openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing+OR+project:openstack/neutron-fwaas+OR+project:openstack/neutron-fwaas-dashboard+OR+project:openstack/neutron-vpnaas+OR+project:openstack/neutron-vpnaas-dashboard+OR+project:openstack/os-ken+OR+project:openstack/ovsdbapp)+status:open&High+Priority+Changes=label:Review-Priority=2&Priority+Changes=label:Review-Priority=1&Blocked+Reviews=label:Review-Priority=-1 Neutron Priority Dashboard]
** For tap-as-a-service I can't set priority: https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bug/2015471%22+status:open

* Past cycle links
** Epoxy/2025.1 PTG: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/oct2024-ptg-neutron
** Dalmatian/2024.2 PTG: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/apr2024-ptg-neutron
** Caracal/2024.1 PTG: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/oct2023-ptg-neutron

* 2023.2 (Bobcat) transitioning to EOL
** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bobcat-stable%22

* 2023.1 (Antelope)/Zed/Yoga/Xena/Wallaby/Victoria have transitioned to Unmaintained
** https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/V7H6M5ANYOMFWSZ5BJSWAXVNQCUXI6D7/

* Ussuri and Train have transitioned to EOL
** https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/UJ7Y76LRWTZQSSDAGMPWCCVVGGIX3TOG/

* Old items
** Ironic email
*** https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/5SX35AQZ65G6HWQ7WARLJTJK3ASAOWNU/
*** We discussed this in the Drivers meeting
**** https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2024/neutron_drivers.2024-04-26-14.01.log.html
**** Miguel will be point person
**** If there is any impact or changes required in neutron it will be communicated
**** Left open possibility of a new library, but need more investigation

* Permanent links:
** OpenInfra Live event - https://openinfra.dev/live/#all-episodes - there are some interesting presentations there, maybe You would be interested in some of them

=== Bugs and Gate issues ===

* Report from mtomaska:
** https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/MHNCBYOVZPJJS7IETORBQRTLDLJMBGKP/

* Bugs without assignee or to be commented:
** See report

* This week bcafarel is the bug deputy, next week will be elvira

* Current bug count this week: 753, down 22 from last week
** [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on All neutron bugs]

* Bug squash etherpad - contains old bugs that need to be closed
** https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/dalmatian-neutron-bug-squash
** (haleyb) refreshed on December 2nd

* More discussion on this topic takes place during the Neutron CI meeting: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NeutronCI

* [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.tag=gate-failure Confirmed gate failures]
* [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=needs-attention Bugs that need attention]
* [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=OPINION&field.status%3Alist=INVALID&field.status%3Alist=WONTFIX&field.status%3Alist=EXPIRED&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=FIXRELEASED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.tag=deprecation All bug reports associated to deprecation issues]
* [https://goo.gl/KtEwbL Bugs Sheet]
* [http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate Grafana dashboards]

==== Bug deputy ====

You can find more information about what the role is here: https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/contributor/policies/bugs.html#neutron-bug-deputy. During the Denver PTG we made the decision to institute a fixed rotation for the the bugs deputy role. The currently scheduled rotation is the following:
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
|-
! Date !! who !! note
|-
| 2025-5-12 || Bernard Cafarelli (bcafarel) ||
|-
| 2025-5-19 || Elvira García Ruiz (elvira) ||
|-
| 2025-5-26 || Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) ||
|-
| 2025-6-2 || Brian Haley (haleyb) ||
|-
| 2025-6-9 || Bence Romsics (rubasov) ||
|-
| 2025-6-16 || Miguel Lavalle (mlavalle) ||
|-
| 2025-6-23 || Jakub Libosvar (jlibosva) ||
|-
| 2025-6-30 || Oleg Bondarev (obondarev) ||
|-
| 2025-7-07 || Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez (ralonsoh) ||
|-
| 2025-7-14 || Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui (sahid) ||
|-
| 2025-7-21 || Lajos Katona (lajoskatona) ||
|-
| 2025-7-28 || Yatin Karel (ykarel) ||
|-
| 2025-8-4 || Terry Wilson (otherwiseguy) ||
|-
| 2025-8-11 || Miro Tomaska (mtomaska) ||
|}

In preparation for their duty week, deputies are encouraged to review the Neutron bugs policy: https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/contributor/policies/bugs.html

=== ryu os-ken ===

* To move os-ken from https://storyboard.openstack.org/ to launchpad.
** (former) Story board to track ryu backports: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2009283

* Active os-ken patches: https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/os-ken+status:open

* New patches in ryu:

=== Specs ===

* Specs: https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack%252Fneutron-specs+status:open
* Open reviews:
** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-specs/+/899210?usp=search

=== Community Goals ===

* Last TC meeting summary:
** https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2025/tc.2025-04-01-17.00.log.html

* Current Selected (Active) Goals:
** Neutron client deprecation
*** https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1999774
*** Agenda: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/python-neutronclient_deprecation
*** Active patches to review:
**** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bug/1999774%22
** Eventlet removal
*** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/902585
*** And related proposal to have oslo.service use cotyledon and futurist to replace eventlet
**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo-specs/+/922597
*** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bug/2069581%22 (ralonsoh)
*** This is a list of bugs Rodolfo created for this goal, please take and work on one if possible:
**** https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=eventlet-deprecation
*** os-ken migration:
**** https://opendev.org/openstack/os-ken/src/branch/master/os_ken/lib/hub.py
**** alternative: bring back ofctl
** WSGI migration
*** See replies to this thread for more information, for example, switching to ASGI
**** https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/message/EBV4PAMFUZCL72KC2HP7W4P47L6RYU2H/

* Past Goals:
** Add support for the service role in neutron API policies
*** Service role implementation: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2026182
**** Patches complete, Slawek to follow-up with Gmann about integrated testing for it all
** Add support for the manager role in neutron API policies
*** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/923578
**** Patches complete

=== Neutron-lib, planned refactoring and other impacts ===

* Started python type annotation in neutron (discussed in last PTG)
** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/929864/
** Other patches in series
* Type annotation on neutron-lib
** https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22type_tooling%22

=== On Demand Agenda ===

We can only pick one or two topics we can talk about in the time left of the meeting. People should add ideas to the topics section. We will select one or two topics we can discuss during the next meeting. Please follow the template below:
* May 20th:
** (haleyb): backport for OVN remote address group support in security groups
*** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/949852
*** Comment I added to the change, let's discuss:
So while this seems like a feature based on the release note, looking at the follow-on to the original series it has the title:

"[ovn] Add 'security-groups-remote-address-group' extension to OVN"

https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bp/address-groups-in-sg-rules%22

https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/765101

To me that implies the extension was supported for OVN starting in Wallaby, even though it did not work.

The ovsdbapp support for this was added in 2024.1, so adding this change to 2024.2 and 2024.1 has no requirements change:

https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ovsdbapp/+/905044

For that reason I feel this can be considered a bug fix and would like to consider this as closing the ML2/OVS versus OVN gap.
** (ralonsoh): https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/+/949140
*** Lajos' comment: to use this image only in master.

== Previous meeting logs ==
* Previous meetings, with their notes and logs, can be found [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/ here].
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2025/?C=M;O=D networking-2025]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2024/?C=M;O=D networking-2024]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2023/?C=M;O=D networking-2023]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2022/?C=M;O=D networking-2022]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2021/?C=M;O=D networking-2021]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2020/?C=M;O=D networking-2020]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2019/?C=M;O=D networking-2019]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2018/?C=M;O=D networking-2018]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/?C=M;O=D networking-2017]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/?C=M;O=D networking-2016]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/?C=M;O=D networking-2015]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/?C=M;O=D networking-2014]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/?C=M;O=D networking-2013]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2013/?C=M;O=D quantum-2013]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2012/?C=M;O=D quantum-2012]

2025-03-27T10:16:03Z

Rodolfo Alonso: /* Agenda */

The Neutron Drivers Team ([[Neutron Drivers]]) holds public meetings as advertised on [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Neutron_drivers_Meeting OpenStack IRC Meetings Calendar]. If you are unable to attend, please check the most recent [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/ logs.]

'''Ping list''': ykarel, mlavalle, mtomaska, slaweq, obondarev, tobias-urdin, lajoskatona, haleyb, ralonsoh

== Agenda ==
* Ongoing discussions:
* To be vetted for discussion:
** [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=rfe-confirmed Confirmed RFE's]
* To be screened:
** [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=rfe RFE's to be screened]
* Ready for discussion:
** [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=rfe-triaged RFE's ready for discussion]
* Approved RFE's:
** [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=rfe-approved Approved RFE's]
** [https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron-specs,n,z Pending Specs] - please review
*** (amnik) Add spec for NFS-Ganesha extension in OVN Agent
**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-specs/+/936063
*** (s3rj1k) Add `Agent Startup State Tracking`
**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-specs/+/935724
*** (vprokofev) Add spec for random-fully per-FIP feature RFE
**** https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-specs/+/932650
** [https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:merged+project:openstack/neutron-specs,n,z Merged Specs]
* Other RFE's:
** [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=rfe-postponed Postponed RFE's]
** [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=WONTFIX&field.tag=rfe Rejected RFE's]
** [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=EXPIRED&field.tag=rfe Expired RFE's]
** [https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=EXPIRED&field.tag=rfe-approved Expired/Approved RFE's]
* On Demand agenda (keep this template, please):
** (irc nick) topic
** (mzhang15) Project-Specific QoS Controls for Granular Resource Management https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2102184
** (slaweq, 2024-12-19) Proposal to deprecate "vlan_transparent" config option https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2092174
** (ralonsoh, 2025-03-27) ``eventlet.GreenPool`` in the L3 agent. Proposal: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/938411
*** There are some concerns about using the tailored made class ``ResizableThreadPool``.
*** An alternative could be to remove the pool resize mechanism and use, for example, the ``ThreadPoolExecutor`` class. NOTE: that also requires some kind of task addition handler, as long as we now rely on the ``GreenPool.spawn_n`` method, that blocks the execution until the task list is ready to accept and execute a new one.

== Previous meeting logs ==
* Previous meetings, with their notes and logs, can be found [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/ here].
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2025/?C=M;O=D neutron_drivers-2025]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2024/?C=M;O=D neutron_drivers-2024]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2023/?C=M;O=D neutron_drivers-2023]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2022/?C=M;O=D neutron_drivers-2022]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2021/?C=M;O=D neutron_drivers-2021]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2020/?C=M;O=D neutron_drivers-2020]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2019/?C=M;O=D neutron_drivers-2019]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/?C=M;O=D neutron_drivers-2018]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/?C=M;O=D neutron_drivers-2017]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/?C=M;O=D neutron_drivers-2016]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2015/?C=M;O=D neutron_drivers-2015]
** [http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2014/?C=M;O=D neutron_drivers-2014]